December 13, 2017

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RPFL: Real or Scam?

image: Rivals Football League

When we all were kids, we all wanted to do some thing big like be an astronaut, a teacher, or even a professional athlete. For me, I always wanted to play football. When I was 2-3 years old I would run around the yard playing with my football. I spent my life working hard so I could play or be around the game. Today I own LGF (Louisiana Gridiron Football) and coach football. My life is football, well my family too. I tell people that I have three loves, God, Family, and Football.

Quentin Hines Owner of the RPFL

So when I hear about predators feeding on someones dreams, I take it personally. In 2015, Louisiana had not one but two so called Professional Indoor Teams come in and say that they were going to take the place of the departed New Orleans Voodoo. We learned of this and started asking question such as: where were they going to play? did they have the turf/ boards? did they have insurance? Neither team had a venue, after I called or went to the venue that I was told they had, neither team had the money for the turf and boards, and neither team could afford the insurance. Louisiana has the highest rates for insurance for a professional sport. Louisianian law states that any professional team must have $250,000 wroth of insurance for each player and coach. This policy is pretty steep. I called one Greater Louisiana Insurance, since they advertise with us, and asked about this policy. The cheapest policy that they could find was $200,000 per year.

Since August when we first broke the story of the Rival Professional Football League (RPFL), we have received hundreds of calls and emails saying that we were right. So what are they doing? Well the league is boosting about being a professional league that gives player contracts for $301,000 plus guarantees NFL and CFL coaches will be in attendance to sign guys for the next level. Well first let me start off by saying that the NFL DOES NOT SEND SCOUTS TO MINOR LEAGUE GAMES! I know this because I have spoken to the NFL about this. The CFL will send a scout to a game, however, everyone will know days in advance that he will be coming because he will contact the coaches way in advance for film their thoughts on they guy they are looking at. There are literally thousands of semi-pro, minor league, and semi-professional leagues out there. There is a lot of money involved in sending a scout out to watch someone in a game. I know this because I am friends with scouts and GM’s in the CFL. Several were at my wedding a few years back. So the claims that the RPFL is a developmental league for the NFL is false. To date, not one player in the RPFL has signed with any NFL or CFL team.

This is what the RPFL players are paying for. To line Mr Hines bank account.

I was emailed a copy of the players contract, and I could not stop laughing at it. First off, the numbers do not add up .2017 RPFL Welcome Letter and Player Contract So lets get started with page 2. It says that all players must have a doctors evaluation done before they can play. This is true, however, a professional team would want their doctors to do the physicals, after all it is their insurance that will be effected. Which brings me to my second point. NO PROFESSIONAL TEAM CAN NOT HOST A GAME WITHOUT FIRST HAVING INSURANCE! Sure players must have their own insurance, but the team MUST provide Workers Comp Insurance for every player. THAT IS AN ACTUAL LAW! Louisiana is really strict on this. It costs a team $200k per season for just one team. On page 3 of the contract, item 6 injury: you must sign away all rights if you are injured on the job? That I do not understand. Why does this league not have insurance for their players?

On item 10 Compensation, I have same questions. Question one being, how do you get paid $20,000 for selling 200 season tickets when the season ticket value is only $50 each and you can only make 50% of that ($25). The most you can make on this is $5,000. Second, every player will make 33% for every sponsorship they sell. How does that add up to $60,000? So this contract is a set up as a four year deal. As you can see, if you played every position and earned the top amount for that position you would only earn $151,000 in four years. So the case of signing a $301,000 contract is FALSE. So what to these guys get paid? I was told by one coach that Mr Hines forces the coaches to play every player a certain number of reps per game, so the chances of a QB passing for 350 yards or a running back rushing for 200 yards is slim to none. I was told that there are a few players that were paid, however most players are not.

So since this is like semi-pro football, how much do you have to pay before you even step onto the filed? Well to tryout for the league you first must pay $150. Then you must rent the official RPFL helmet and pads fro $150. You then have to by all the apparel for another $150. Then you must buy your uniform for another $150. So now lets throw in the $40 for a physical that he charges players if you do not bring one from your doctor. Then there is a $40 charge for a background check. Now if your one of the unlucky ones to be fooled into this, you would most likely have to move to where your team is at. He now charges you $105 per week for a room (multiply this by 10 since there is a 10 week season $1050). So you are now looking at $1730 out of your pocket before you step your first foot on the field.

What do you get once you have paid your money to play in this league? You can keep your jersey and apparel that you buy. You must return the helmet and pads after the season. In Miami, he had a mansion that he rented for the players. It was a seven bedroom 4 bath house that housed 35 football players. The A/C control panel was removed so the players could not adjust the temperature in the house. May I remind you that this happened in south Florida. All the players had to eat and drink were noodles and water. The coaches I talked to said that they had to help these guys at times because they were starving.

What can be done to stop this? I have instructed every player and coach that has contacted me or others on my staff to go file a police report. Once the police have enough complaints they will then be able to charge Mr Hines with Fraud. Since this now across state lines, this has become a federal crime. $1730 is a lot of money per player that was dished out because of the lies. Not to mention all the players that paid $150, tried out and didn’t make any team. He is praying on peoples dreams and will only be stopped if there are complaints.

Here is the championship game between the Atlantic Sharks and the Florida Red Wolves. I have received class and emails from coaches, players, and officials from this game saying how Mr Hines changed the rules during the game, how he was unprofessional, and how this man is stealing from the integrity of the game.

 

 

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Founder of Louisiana Gridiron Football and football coach

21 Comments on RPFL: Real or Scam?

  1. It’s sad that this article is the TRUTH! I was one of those players in Miami. I played for the south beach silverbacks the experience was horrible and unprofessional. Me being smart I only stayed for 2 weeks. While others suffered there, I left. I put my heart and soul on the field. But that league is a joke. The most a prayer got paid was $100 just one game and that was only like 6 players. Everything in this article was correct. I also was one of the players to stay in the mansion in Miami lakes when he took the A/C thermostat out. We slept with windows open because it was so hot. Worst “pro” experience ever

  2. I was a member for the Atlantic Sharks in Miami and the experience was horrible, all Mr. Hines complained about was money any time he visited the house, we stayed in a 4 bed room 2 bathroom house with a little over 20 players stuck in there with no air, because he literally ripped the Thermostat off the wall because he said it would make the bill high, but yet he stay on insta showing off all that money he has smh, and 2 bathroom with 20+ people u would either have to take a shower at AM hours when everyone is finally going to sleep or in the afternoon when players go to workout, and he had the nerve to give us a jail house mattress that was like and inch thick, u either had to lay on your bck or side there was no room to stretch out or turn over without fallen off, worst sleep ever, and he would threaten to call the police, or kick u out the league if u didn’t have his 105 every week for housing, he made plenty of promises on what he was gonna get for the house but all we received for the house was one small couch for 20+ people and one tv… Which the tv was pointless kuz there was no cable but he did buy a DVD player and one movie to keep on repeat smh… There was actually one night after practice when we first got housing assignments we were locked out so we called him to let us in and he said he would be there in 30 min he never showed up, if it wasn’t for one of the players checking the side door ( it was unlocked) we woulda been out there all night, there was also a time on our off day he told us don’t leave before 4 pm because he was coming to collect money he didn’t show up till almost 11 that night, there were also a lot of things we were suppose to do as a league as well but of course when it came closer to time something always came up to why we couldn’t do it,, and as far as insurance I played with NO INSURANCE at all no physical no nothing he didn’t ask or verify if I had any of it, only thing he ever verified was if we paid him. I lost so much money going to Miami, but the players and Atlantic Shark coaches made my time there worth wild , in just the short time that I was there because we became a Family, and it’s sad kuz there’s so much talent there from all 4 teams, but all we really got was some low quality game film, I’m just disappointed that it was all based on FALSE HOPE by Mr Hines and his so called Connections. He always promised some scout would be there and come game day we seen NONE.. My Coach did more for us than Mr. Hines ever did.. I just want everyone to know that this league is a waste of money and if u have hopes of going to the next level find a legit League…

    • Yes true on jail house mats all this is true from the no AC to the 105 a Week for rent this League is a joke there where no scouts at any of the game so any thinking of going to the RPFL save your money and time

  3. What’s up…..I am apart of the Baltimore 10 …..9 really one was from the DMV…..lol….but we sparked off this league….came up detriot….showed up and balled out….we lost our first game and no more after that….we where the hot ticket….we paid our money for insurance and all….this bitch ass mfer Quinton Hines never reimbursed us for our money…..and when I confronted him about it….he kicked me out the league….and my team which was 10 dudes from Baltimore/DMV….and 9-11 of the realest detriot dudes i know….except Luther…..snake in the grass right there…..qmhinrs fired our coach bc he made away for us to stay up there and fighting for what was right for us as players…. we slept 9 dudes to 2 super 8 hotel rooms in deerborn….this man made money at the gate EVERY game…. concessions and all……BUT HE COULDNT PAY ME $30(which was half of the 60 we had to pay for the insurance MONTHLY)…..WE WHERE THE SOUTHERN MICHIGAN MUSTANGS….WE RAN THE RPFL…..AND I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO THE LIGHT….I HAVE WRITEN THE NEWS THERE AND HERE IN BALTIMORE ABOUT THIS SCAM. Even had one of my youth fooball teams brothers go to this league and have the same thing happen to him….people leave their lives home to chase their dream…..and me and my brothers left Baltimore took 10 hour drives on Sundays to chase our dreams….daijon Powell leaving 7 children …. James gamble….Eddie Harvey….Ronald mcclary… Nicholas Tolson all leaving children and spouses home to chase this….my self Dave Montgomery … Miguel Davis ….Reggie Macyntire….one of the more notable names Jason Goode (my high school teammate and played for the Washington Redskins) all gave up our lives and work here in Baltimorefor the chance….he stop paying for our hotel in hopes we would leave and give up…..but we where sent and angel and new head coach MANSFIELD DINKINS and the DINKINS family who took us in their household and showed us love….and whooped every teams ass they lined up against us….see his team was detriot cougars….and after the first intial game we shed some fat…lose some good player to injury….some quit bc of Quinton Hines foolishness….some traded up on us….fuck em to this day….but my 11 bro held it down wit us…how you going to try and play 9 men from the heart of Baltimore City …. He must ain’t seen the wire….you can drop us off anywhere and we going to adapt….he didn’t anticipate our fight and heart…our love for the game and your hunger for our dream….lol….but we didn’t fight him …..we just dogged the league…..won every game until he quinton Hines kicked me out…and the team didn’t stand for it and protested it …and he disassembled our team….crazy how that all happened…I still have my contract and everything….this man laughed at me on the phone when I asked for my money for the insurance reimbursement….but every time we went to his office he was HIGH as shit…..you can be high as fuck….but can’t pay me 30 dollars….

    WE AINT EVEN GET I TO THE CONTRACTS YET…..them joints changed more than stop lights…..mind you we weren’t from there….so we had to stay in hotels…9 to 1 room at some times…no source income….ALWAYS waiting for money that would inevitably never make it….it’s something to show up to games on a empty stomach …. Still get charged for hotdogs and water….still play ….keep winning….ALL THE WHILE STILL NOT GETTING PAID…..if you got any questions ….. Need anything on him…..hit me up….but this brother deserves whatever backlash he gets……he shitted on his father in front of us just to try to show he ran the show….any man that can treat his own father….who admitted to what he did and does….but still supported him….here you go…..this shit should be a movie….

    • Since this contract is under Ohio State law (Paragraph 9) “EVERYONE” concerned should contact the State of Ohio Attorney General (it’s a “.com” site) and file official complaints. This Quentin Hines needs to be put on notice!

      My son almost got caught up in this scam.

      Pass it on.

      • What about the teams in Detroit????? My son will be leavin on Thursday…. First day pf training camp os on Friday June 16th, is it a waste of time

      • A guy contacted me off me off one of the sites calling me to come tryout see I don’t like things like this because you have guys that really want to play and show their talents and your have dishonest people like this SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! people like him need to end up under the jail….Cory and I’m filing a police report on that guy who contacted me one of his scouting assistants and have them brought up on charges of harassment

      • A guy contacted me off me off one of the sites calling me to come tryout see I don’t like things like this because you have guys that really want to play and show their talents and your have dishonest people like this SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! people like him need to end up under the jail….Cory and I’m filing a police report on that guy who contacted me one of his scouting assistants and have them brought up on charges of harassment

    • I been debating about the draft. It starts tomorrow. I feel like I need to go tho to team up with the players. This doesn’t come as a surprise to me. But I’m willing to believe because of my love for the sport.

      2018 RPFL Draft

  4. First of all, THANK YOU ANDY!!!! I am a parent of an almost “drafted” player for the Sharks. My family, along with friends, to include a former NFL player from the Denver Broncos took one look at the contract and said it is complete nonsense. My son was to get the contract, signed and returned within the week of the “draft.” He never received it until THE NIGHT BEFORE HE WAS TO FLY TO MIAMI! As you well know, we had already had bought plane reservations round trip and a hotel. This was only one of many things we put money into to get my son there for this opportunity so to speak. After bugging Quentin and his coach for weeks about this contract, it finally arrives in his inbox the night before he was to leave. My son read it and was absolutely disgusted by the nonsense that he read. He allowed everyone else to look at it and thankfully that night he canceled his trip to go down there to Miami and told the coach he will not be coming this is definitely not for him. When we saw the contract, I got a hold of another player that was to go to Miami. I just chose him randomly from Facebook and being on the RPFL page. After I gave him your website with some information I found he was horrified to have already been on the plane on his way down to Miami. His experience was horrific. This player feels absolutely duped and he regrets ever going down. I’m not going to get into the whole story but what I am going to say, I have been wanting to do something about this because this guy is ripping off not only money from athletes but their dreams as well. If you can get back to me, and let me know what we can do to help out an investigation on this organization we will be happy to help. I will be giving the player I know about your website here so he can read all of this as well and maybe he too will put in his two cents on what he may like to do also. I am DISGUSTED in Hines and what he is doing. He needs to be stopped!

  5. Since this contract is under Ohio State law (Paragraph 9) “EVERYONE” concerned should contact the State of Ohio Attorney General (it’s a “.com” site) and file official complaints. This Quentin Hines needs to be put on notice!

    For instance on Page 1, paragraph 1 says that you are a “CONTESTANT”. This means you’ll have better luck on the Gong Show…, “NO GUARANTEES” that you’ll win “ANYTHING”, catch a pass, gain a yard or a tackle. What if you’re at 99 yards and you’re pulled out of the game?

    Secondly, the 1st page letter states that this is a “PERFORMANCE BASED CONTRACT”.

    Paragraph 10 C; your “BASE SALARY” is determined “FROM YOUR PERFORMANCE” Page 4 shows the “salary based on performance” dollar amounts.

    For instance if you only make “2 interceptions” all you get is $100.00…, NO WAIT…, you get “1/10th” of $100.00 dollars or, $10.00 dollars because that’s what is stated in 10 C. (by the way you pay taxes on the $10.00). Why do you think there are “X’s” on the “salary” line?

    So if I”m wrong please clarify for me. This contract appears to be straight TRASH.

  6. Damn shame….. My sons ticket is bought already…… I cannot beleive this mess….. Who tp contact in Detroit????????

  7. damn i wish i would of read this before i left for poniac. im just going to go and see what he is talking about. I will give yall the update tommor after camp.

  8. its really awful because the black community needs something like this. Because the NFL is filled to the rim with racism and hatred.

  9. If people knew what incentive based means you know you have to make plays to get paid, and the contract are not 301k a year it’s 301k for 4 years that why the numbers in this article not adding up, scouts do come to the games I’ve talked to them and the article is right we knew weeks before. 3 guys that I know of actually moved up one was a teammate of mines. You get your equipment money back at the end of the year, the only reason you have to pay a deposit is because players in the first year took all of the equipment. You get a nice platform to play on with great film for free. What do you want out of a league that’s only been around for 5 years?

  10. I will right away clutch your rss as I can’t find your e-mail subscription hyperlink or e-newsletter service. Do you’ve any? Please allow me know in order that I may just subscribe. Thanks.

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